As an increasing number of us wake up to the climate and ecological crises, it becomes clear that climate change is as much a question of narrative, storytelling, psychology and human behaviour as it is about science. How could it not be in the stories we read?

In the first of what will be a series of podcasts highlighting writing concerned with our time of crisis, writer Emma Geen, author of the novel ‘The Many Selves of Katherine North’, joins Jess and Henry to talk about novels which actively engage with climate change whilst looking beyond the apocalyptic, into possible new ways of thinking and being human. We also met up with prize-winning author Amitav Ghosh to discuss his new novel Gun Island, why he wouldn’t classify his own writing as ‘cli-fi’ and the potential problem with dystopias.

Hosted by Jessica Johannesson with music by The Bookshop Band

Take a look at our Climate Crisis in Fiction reading list.